The Horsley – Waagner relationship: “The making of a puppet.”
A warning …
Are we Christian first and prolife second – or prolife first and Christian second?
If we are Christian first, then we are bound by God’s Word to do what it says, and not to exceed what is written.
If we are prolife first and Christian second, then our first allegiance is to our cause rather than our Creator. All manner of lawlessness is permissable because our first love is the cause.
Editor, MTTU News
What does it mean to be a Christian? Is not a Christian a “follower of Christ?” Is it not put upon us – as followers of Christ – to obey His Word above all else? Are there “exception” clauses found anywhere in the Bible?
An internal debate has been ongoing concerning Clayton Waagner and his inclusion to the Prisoners of Christ list, and those who seek to justify his actions against innocent people after he escaped from prison. The POC List is a list of Christians who have been jailed for saving unborn children. The active words in that name are “prisoner” and “Christ.” It is supposed that one is a “Christian.”
These days, some prolifers consider men who are car thieves, bank robbers, carjackers, and life long criminals – Christians. The term“Prisoner of War” has even been tossed around to give excuse to all of Clay Waagner’s actions against innocents. It is the “end justifies the means” argument.
(Click link below for the exploits of Clay Waagner)
The “escaped prisoner of war” theory goes like this: An escaped prisoner of war is allowed to commit crimes in order to avoid capture.This theory is flawed. It is purely an American or humanistic view. Where is the Biblical precedence for a POW being allowed to commit crimes? Is there even one example of the “right” to rob, steal or do whatever is necessary in order to avoid capture? Or could it be an Americanism that has now superceded the Word of God? When the angel set Peter free from jail in Acts 12:7-12 , did Peter immediately steal the jailer’s chariot? It should be remembered that when Waagner escaped from prison, he was not in jail for being a Christian or doing anything prolife – but rather the evil of his own deeds. To say he escaped as a POW is disingenuous at best.
Clayton Lee Waagner robbing the First Union Bank in Harrisburg, Pa., in May 2001.
The only war in which he was involved, was a war against decent people who work for a living. The whole POW thought line has no application to Waagner. He may view himself as such, but that does not make it so.
Neal Horsley of ChristianGallery.com is Waagner’s biggest supporter. One former Waagner advocate states the following concerning the Horsley – Waagner relationship:
“This is what I see – a life long criminal (Waagner) showed up at Horsley’s door … on a crime spree from “God” … and Horsley … rather than leading him to the Lord and repentance … THEN EXPLOITS HIM FOR HIS OWN PURPOSES. What a scoop for the Christian Gallery News Service!”
I believe this is a true statement. Sadly, a weak-minded Waagner became a puppet for Horsley’s desire for notoriety and web site “hits.”
Neil Horsley and I have worked together in like-minded projects for years. It is regrettable that this kind of an article must be written. For the sake of future puppets, it MUST be written.
Christ and His Word are supposed to be central to the Christian faith. It gives us direction and instruction in how the Christian life is supposed to be lived. Not so today though, when the end justifies the means.
Consider the following on Horsley’s “Greatly Appreciated Allies.” It is a letter of support from a Muslim:
Dear Brother Neil Horsley,
I don’t know whether you have received any mail from any Muslim about your fight against “unnatural” acts being commited by humans. I would like you to know that your fight against homosexuality and abortion is not your fight alone. It is my fight and is a fight of every Muslim on this planet. I, as a Muslim, am required to ask the Christians to come to common terms with us on certain gorunds. (One of the terms is believing in one God). Our holy Scripture (Al Koran: The last testament) quotes:
“Say: oh people of the scripture (includes Jews and Christians) come to an agreement between us and you: that we shall worship none but Allah(God in Arabic), that we shall ascribe no partners onto him, and none of us shall take others for lords besides Allah (God), and if they turn away, then say: Bear witness that we are they who have surrendered (unto him).”
These crimes are unnatural and thus against Islam. God says that he turns his face away from homosexuals, there is a deep meaning to this sentences if one analysis it. I support your fight and will pray that God assists you in your endeavor against these hideous crimes.
We, as Muslims have to accept the Bible (engeel) as a holy Scripture and Jesus as the Son of Mary and his Miraculous birth. So in these matters we can join our fight against hideous crimes and can strengthen our force and pressure against the criminals. You are a good Christian not a “new” Christian who seem to change with time. I am glad you have stuck to your traditional values as we Muslims do. The Koran talks about Christians like you. It says:
So Brother let us join hands in this fight and be stronger for this cause for there “shall be no fear” for the righteous whether Christian, Jew or Muslim.
Warm regards and prayers for you,
From the beginning, when the Founders signed the Declaration of Independence, the USA was intended to be a nation where people who looked to the Creator of the Universe as the source of authority could gather together and worship Him with the light they have received. His Holiness has been desecrated in this nation and His Authority desecrated by infidels who mock His Holy Name and Holy Plan. Please know that I am looking for the Living God, the God of Abraham, to restore His authority in the USA. I look forward to working with you and all my Muslim allies to accomplish His Plan in the days and years ahead. May we serve with undying loyalty the God of Abraham. For that God is truly the only Living God. Praise be His Holy Name.
When the end justifies the means, you will accept help from anyone – from those who are lost and caught up in false religions (with no presentation of the true gospel made) – to even lifelong criminals. Bonds are made with those who serve other gods, and excuses offered for weak minded lawless Christians.
Clay Waagner should have been taught scriptures such as:
But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or a thief, or an evildoer, or a meddler in the affairs of others. But if one suffers as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God because of this
1 Peter 4:15,16
Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
2 Timothy 2:19
Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.
But Waagner was not taught these scriptures, and was encouraged to continue in his lawless ways to do “prolife works.“ He was used to further another man’s ambitions at the peril of his own soul.
The final straw for this writer concerning Horsley and his ChristianGallery.com was the infamous Army of God Communiqué posted one week prior to a Jim Kopp support rally scheduled two months before his trial in Buffalo, NY.
The lead up to the article boasted:
“Hundreds of Responses Pouring In”
“Message says no children will be killed legally killed in Buffalo on Roe v Wade day.”
The effect on the rally for Jim Kopp however was devastating. The rally became about the “Army of God” instead of Jim Kopp. Anyone attending would automatically be considered a member of the ‘Army of God’ to the feds. Of 100 people who had committed to attend, only 13 showed up. I, myself, was planning on attending. I cancelled immediately upon reading the AOG Communiqué – which was nothing more then a web site, fame-seeking message made up by Horsley. Horsley has not denied he made up the message when questioned about it – but it had the effect he wanted. Lots of press attention for himself and more visitors to his web site. He is currently pimping his“prophetic message” videotape he made in Buffalo. Make no mistake – Neal Horsley is only about Neal Horsley. Jim Kopp also knows that now as well.
If there is blame to be laid for men like Clay Waagner, then it lay at the hands of his handlers. Instead of instructing him on the ways of righteousness – the Word of God – they encouraged him to be nothing more than a Muslim homicide bomber in Christian garb.
There will always be those seeking their own kingdoms in this world. Some in the name of Jesus. Verily, they have their reward. Sadly, at the peril of the souls of men like Clayton Waagner.